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Question from Cappucino

June 7, 2010

I saw your site mentioned on a blog I usually visit so I came here to find out more about you and this Messianics Exposed.

QUESTION: Would you consider any person who told you about Jesus to be messianic let me give you the for-instance of a Church of God member? Or are all witnesses to Jesus messianics in your eyes?

QUESTION2: Do you think you would have gravitated to Judaism if you were not born into it? Would your religious affiliation still be Jewish if you were born to people who did not believe in God at all?

Answer to Question1:
No, not every believer in Jesus is a “messianic jew”. The vast majority of Christians do not identify as “messianic jews” and are proud of being called Christians. Many are actually insulted by the label: some seeing it as a badge of Judaizers that the Church fathers preached against, others as a disgraceful tactic that they do not want to be associated with. In short, “messianic jews” and “messianic judaism” are a specific branch of evangelical Christianity and not a generic term for Christians

Answer to question 2:
See, here you need to under stand the South African Jewish community. In the world of Judaism it is very much an anomaly. South Africa is unique in that the majority of the community (over 90%) is Orthodox, but the majority of the community is not observant! Its a very strange situation, regardless of the level of observance of individuals, they associate with the Orthodox community and remain attached to Judaism via the Orthodox community. For this reason, you find here many “Traditional Orthodox Jews”- essentially people that are halachicly Orthodox Jews, follow the traditions like Friday nights at shul and supper, have a Pesach seder etc but will still drive to a rugby match on Saturday afternoon or watch TV on Shabbos etc. However, because people remain affiliated to the Orthodox community, if they do desire to become more religious it is very easy for them. No changes of community or affiliation, merely the decision to become more religious. For this reason the baal teshuvah movement has been very succesful in Johannesburg and countrywide. I am one of those. I grew up traditional, had a Saturday morning job etc. I had a strong secular and zionist identity, but not a strong religious one. When I hit university, I did as many young people do: I started investigating the options. I studied various religions including Christianity, Islam and Hinduism. I had a brief dalliance with the church of Scientology and Bahai’ism and then got involved with a Jewish youth organisation. Through that, I met a person who became my close friend and invited me to spend a Shabbos at Yeshivah Gedolah. It was the first of many, and the first of my learning real Judaism and realising that I had been looking in all the wrong places. G-d had brought me back to where I should have started. G-d does things in his own way; without doubt my earlier readings of the holy books of other religions has meant I am far more comfortable than most when confronting missionaries!

  1. JohnSRiggy permalink

    This isn’t worth the time I took to type.

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