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TACTIC: Lying about your identity

Well, it’s a topic that ha soften been discussed on this blog, the issue of identities, identity theft and misrepresentation of identities by “messianic jews” in their attempts to try to promote themselves on Yahoo!Answers.

So you would think that they would know better than to continue to lie about themselves, to lie about their identities etc especially when the evidence is easy to find that shows they are lying.  Nope- the simple ethics of honesty and being honest about oneself are clearly beyond the comprehension of “messianic jews” so they continue to try to pretend they are something other than what they are…

What prompts this post?  As usual the “messianic jewish” user devoted1 is trying to claim she is Jewish, was born Jewish etc.  The fact that she had previously posted the opposite no barrier to her lies especially not with a new feature in Yahoo!Answers- you cannot edit an answer on a closed question, but you can make it anonymous!  Thus devoted thinks she can just make her previous answers incriminating her by showing she lies anonymous and then claim that she never made the posts!  Yes, yet more dishonesty and deceit on top of the previous dishonesty and deceit…

So, lets show a screen shot of her stating that she is a convert to Judaism from 7 years ago and then as it is now, her changing her answer to anonymous to try to pretend she never made the statements she

did…

Three easy religious questions...all answers welcomeDevo admits she's a convert as a messie - Do you believe that Judiasm is not an ethnic group and only a religion

Devoted Changing her answer to anonymous

Devoted Changing her answer to anonymous

Devo admits she is a Christian - Three easy religious questions...all answers welcome

Tactic: Identity theft to attack others

In the past I have blogged about how the “messianic jews” have tried to steal my identity and how I caught them out.  (see the Post Tactic: Pretending to be other people!)

So what are they doing now?  On this question the clown once again is trying to limit the damage to “messianic judaism” by trying to slander me.  His reasoning appears to be that if he can discredit me it will somehow mean “messianic judaism” is justified.  Of course he has nothing real to use to discredit me and his slander is so easy to disprove that it is totally ineffective meaning he had to find something new.

So what did he decide to do?  A community member with the username Clinton (not his real name and I have no idea why he chose it lol) has posted on some questions in the past.  The clown decided to attack me by making a clone account and posing as Clinton.  A really stupid idea on his part since Clinton comes to services every morning and is a dedicated attendee at the two shiurim I give.  A simple phone call and Clinton has responded to the clown (maybe the Clown forgot that Christmas Eve is just a normal night for Jews and everyone is contactable).  What is the result of the clown being caught out?  True to form for the “messianic jews” and supporters on Y!A when caught out the attacks are escalated so now Clinton is accused of being a sock puppet.

Pretty much business as usual, but an important heads up to anyone dealing with “messianic jews” that when someone criticising them suddenly posts to support them, confirm with the person.  The reality is that it is probably just a case of identity theft by the “messianic jews”!

One of the recent changes by Y!A has made proving this whole identity theft by the clown (and the fact he is using multiple accounts) is instrumental in proving their dishonesty!  The change?  In the past when you changed the username or profile picture on an account, it also change don all the questions and answers.  Now changing username no longer changes username on past questions and answers!  So we can go to the fake Clinton profile, to the answers posted (no questions asked by this fake profile- only 9 answers in 5 years!  Clearly an account for multiple votes in the old days and for posing as other people in comments).  What do we see in the answers?  NONE of them have an answer by someone named Clinton… Not a surprise since it was only just changed to that username in an attempt to attack me!

Screenshots below show the fake Clinton account and its answers (yes, the clown forgot to hide those! lol), a couple of the answers to see there is no Clinton there and the question with the fake Clinton’s comments, the real Clinton’s response and the dishonest clown highlighted.

FireShot Screen Capture #001 - 'How do atheists respond to the overwhelming amount of evidence that supports the bible_' - no clinton answering1

FireShot Screen Capture #005 - 'Do you see Reagan as the worst president in US history_' - No clinton

FireShot Screen Capture #007 - 'Answers I Yahoo Answers' - fake clinton profile

Why do a lot of Jews and Christians criticise  Messianic Jews

Tell me tips to buy authentic prada handbags

What s your favourite shoe colour

Tactic: Behave like an animal and expect others to accept it!

You find some “messianic jews” think they can post and behave however they like, but that it should be accepted and others should treat them well!  So you find various “messianic jews”posting the most disgusting insults aimed at Jews, and then complaining that Jews don’t show them “brotherly love”!

So recently Devoted1 posted the following insults aimed at me:

What a sick, miserable, tormented childhood you must have had. And no WONDER your former wife had to leave you! It wouldn’t surprise me if your children also wanted nothing to do with you!

and

You don’t know how to be a husband and father, so it’s no wonder you are such a misfit in all the other areas of your life!

So after showing how little she knows about me (yes, I had a great childhood with a fantastic family and friends) she goes on to show how despicable she is by trying to attack me through my relationship with my children (which is great and a very healthy one, the complete opposite of what this unmensch is trying to claim!)  Now after that, you would think she would realise that is hardly going to be viewed with anything but contempt by me.  Nope, she is so cut off from reality that she then posts

Chag Semeach, allonyoav

and

It would be nice to hear the same thing in reply, but apparently there is no “brotherly love” in allonyoav’s heart.

Now seriously, after the previous insults and gutter behaviour she has displayed, after the hatred and attacks on me and my relationship with my family, does she actually expect that I would have anything but contempt for her?

The answer is: Yes, she is so out of contact with reality that she actually thinks that she is deserving of “brotherly love” regardless of how despicable her behaviour may be!

Sadly this does illustrate the damage that cults do to their members.  A complete absence of an understanding of social convention, and inability to understand boundaries and acceptable behaviour, a belief that you can act however you like and others must just accept it!  Nor is she an aberation.  If you look at the comments in this link you will find the user calling himself “Suckels Clown of Righteousness” , insulting Jews, attacking Jewish beliefs and then showing how out of touch with reality he is by using a Jewish greeting and thinking that somehow exonerates him!

So, when you come across “messianic jews” there are two things this latest exchange highlights:

  1.  They are so cut off from social convention and what anyone else would consider decent behaviour that you really should not expect anything but the level of indecency, despicable behaviour and complete hatred of you to be shown if you should expose them publicly
  2. That they really are so out of touch with reality that they think they can behave however they like and it should have zero repercussions!

Devoted- insults

Devoted- insults 2